Get A Green Episode 1: UConn Conservatory Enters Warmer Weather

Hold­en Duck­worth sits down with UConn Con­ser­va­to­ry Employ­ee Cole Geissler, who man­ages the Trop­i­cal Green­house. The two talk var­i­ous top­ics from what warmer weath­er means for the green­hous­es, the rare col­lec­tion of gin­ger plants, and the state of the facil­i­ty and its need for renovations. 

UConn Con­ser­va­to­ry Page

Transcription

Hold­en: Hel­lo, my name is Hold­en Duck­worth and I’m here at the UConn Conservatory.It’s one of the only places dur­ing this dry weath­er that you can see an abun­dance of green plants. I’m here with Cole Geisel­er and he’s one of the full time employ­ees here. So just start­ing off with some per­son­al ques­tions. How long have you been an employ­ee here and how did you end up work­ing here? 

Cole Geissler: Yeah, so I’ve been here for a year and a half now. I start­ed Octo­ber, not this past Octo­ber, but Octo­ber before. So I don’t remem­ber. What is that, 2024? 23. 

Hold­en: 23. 

Cole Geissler: 2023, yeah, so I’ve been here for about like a year and a half. Ish. I actu­al­ly moved up here from Penn­syl­va­nia for the job. I was a hor­ti­cul­tur­ist down at Long­wood Gar­dens for a year doing ah, con­ser­va­tion, hor­ti­cul­ture and col­lec­tions work. and yeah, and so I real­ly liked the col­lec­tion here at UConn and, the trop­i­cal hor­ti­cul­ture posi­tion was open so I applied and here I am. 

Hold­en: So what sort of work do you do around the conservatory?

Cole Geissler: So I take care of the entire trop­i­cal col­lec­tion, at the conservatory.

So a lot of it is just mak­ing sure that the plants are still hap­py and healthy. I mean usu­al­ly my day starts off with water­ing, spray­ing down the plants to increase the humid­i­ty in the green­hous­es, make sure noth­ing is kind of on the verge of dying. And then from there my day can kind of dif­fer from repot­ting and prop­a­gat­ing and weed­ing to super­vis­ing some stu­dents that we have, we have a vol­un­teer pro­gram, to get­ting plants ready for class use, all sorts of stuff. I do a lot of tours as well for stu­dents and peo­ple out­side of UConn. 

Hold­en:, and what drew you to the trop­i­cal greenhouse? 

Cole Geissler: So I’ve always kind of been kind of a trop­i­cal grow­er, for me, par­tial­ly just because I grew up in Penn­syl­va­nia where it’s like you got the cold weath­er and you’re not going to see trop­i­cal plants unless you go to some­one’s house who grows them or you go out into the trop­ics. so I’ve always been inter­est­ed in grow­ing trop­i­cal plants. and then I start­ed get­ting more focused, in orchids. and so m, my kind of spe­cial­ty has been orchids, for the past cou­ple of years. but the trop­i­cal role I enjoyed a lot because real­ly there’s no end to the sea­son sort of. I mean there’s a Grow­ing sea­son when you live in an area that has a win­ter and a sum­mer and stuff like that, but there’s still some­thing year round that’s hap­pen­ing with the plants. They don’t real­ly go dor­mant. so that’s kind of what I real­ly enjoy about the tropics. 

Hold­en: What I real­ly want­ed to know about was that we’re about to go on spring break 

and then when we come back, it’s spring. and so with warmer weath­er, what does that mean for the green­house? What do you guys start to do as you get into this new season? 

Cole Geissler: Yeah, so spring is very excit­ing here. so we’re here year round. We Don’t stop dur­ing breaks or we hear win­ter break, sum­mer breaks, break, all that. But spring is very excit­ing because Con­necti­cut win­ters are cold and wet, and dark. And because we have an old facil­i­ty, the plants real­ly feel it. We have drafty win­dows, we have leaky leaky ceil­ings and stuff like that. But even if we did, in gen­er­al, trop­i­cal plants are kind of like, don’t real­ly want to be super cold. They Don’t want to be wet year round. , they don’t want to be cold and wet. I should say that they love mois­ture. But like, if you think about the trop­ics, it’s warm there year round and there’s abun­dant rain. But it’s also, they have good light and good dry­ing times. so in the win­ter things are kind of lan­guish­ing and just some of them wilt out, some of them will drop a lot of leaves. Some of them won’t do any­thing. They’lljust sit there. But once spring hap­pens, which actu­al­ly hap­pens a lot ear­li­er in the green­house than it does out­side, we call it, green­house spring. Because the tem­per­a­tures here are already warmer. So like yes­ter­day it was only 50 some­out­side and it was already like 85 degrees in the trop­i­cal green­hous­es. You can real­ly see it in the plants. They all start push­ing new growth. a lot of them start flow­er­ing. Cause they’re kind of like wak­ing up for the sea­son. and we can start doing more things with the plants. With regard to prop­a­gat­ing, repot­ting, we try to avoid doing a lot of that dur­ing the win­ter because they’re kind of sit­ting there. We don’t want to real­ly dis­turb them. They’re kind of in a hold­ing pat­tern and we kind of want to give them their time to rest and kind of not try to do a lot of stuff dur­ing the warm grow­ing sea­son. Worst part of the grow­ing Sea­son. So once spring hap­pens and things wake up, we get a lot busier. not just inside the green­house, but also 

out­side. We also have an out­door gar­den. and when spring hits is when we start doing more cleanup. We start prepar­ing the ground beds 

Cole Geissler: and the raised beds for plant­i­ng. that’s going to hap­pen lat­er in May. and it’s, it’s just def­i­nite­ly a lot more work. But it’s very excit­ing because things real­ly kind of come alive in the spring. 

Hold­en:, and then what sort of stuff goes out­side? Is it like all the types of green­hous­es or is it more focused on one spe­cif­ic thing? 

Cole Geissler: Like, yeah, we don’t tend to put a lot of the stuff that’s in the green­house out­side. There’s only a few things that might go out­side, like some of the tem­per­ate car­niv­o­rous plants. We have a lit­tle bog area set up. but most of the time we like to just kind of. It is a research gar­den. So we do have fac­ul­ty, research.They some­times bring plants down from the rooftop facil­i­ty on bio­physics. so they bring down some mimu­lus plants and plant them out in the gar­den. But a lot of the time we have a lot of extra space. and we all kind of have a dif­fer­ent thing that we like to work with. Matt, Opal, our col­lec­tion sci­en­tist, he real­ly likes to grow,produce, veg­eta­bles, fruits out­side. Megan Mori­ar­ty, our col­lec­tion manager,my boss, she loves cut flow­ers. So we usu­al­ly plant a real­ly good selec­tion of real­ly beau­ti­ful flow­ers that last a long time, have a lot of intrigue through­out the sum­mer and fall. and per­son­al­ly myself, I love putting trop­i­cals out­side because you can real­ly push them to see what they can do. Because even though we are in a green­house, there’s no sub­sti­tute for a nice, like, out­door vaca­tion for some of these plants. , and actu­al­ly this upcom­ing sea­son we’re plan­ning a fiber and like, dye 

gar­den out­side. We’re doing a col­lab­o­ra­tion with Con­necti­cut Nat­ur­al His­to­ry­Muse. and so I’m plan­ning on plant­i­ng some inter­est­ing fiber plants. The Chi­nese silk plant. I’m going to be putting out some cot­ton plants. and then just some oth­er fun trop­i­cals. Like I have a bunch of, I have a bunch of sug­ar­cane thatI’m going to put out­side because in the green­house they can only get so tall before they hit the ceil­ing and then I have to prune them. But if they’re out­side, I can see how big and tall that they can get. And so it’s fun putting trop­i­cals out­side and just see­ing how much you can push them. So that’s what I like to do then. 

Hold­en: In regards to, like, inside being an issue over the win­ter, do you fore­see any­thing soon hap­pen­ing to help refur­bish the greenhouse? 

Cole Geissler: Yeah, so actu­al­ly, dur­ing spring break, we have some peo­ple that are going to be com­ing around and look­ing at the roofs again. It’s been an ongo­ing process. We have such a facil­i­ty that’s old. It’s built in the 50s, and it just needs a lot of work. Ide­al­ly, we would have a whole new facil­i­ty, but of course that costs mon­ey. but yeah, we’re look­ing into get­ting the roof replaced or at least refur­bished, so that there’s not as many leaks in the ceil­ing. Hope­ful­ly we can get some of the side vents replaced, because in the spring we have to open and close them pret­ty much dai­ly, just because it’s too cold in the night­time, but too warm in the day­time. So we have to open and close them before we can get to a sta­ble point where we can open them for the sea­son. And some of them are real­ly old and rust­ed shut. So It’d be nice to get that kind of fixed up. but there’s always work to be done on the facil­i­ty. There are some things that we, as the hor­ti­cul­tur­ists here, can maintain. 

, but a lot of it is out of our exper­tise when it comes to, like, plumb­ing, elec­tri­cal engi­neer­ing. So we kind of have to rely on oth­ers. But, yeah, we’re try­ing to, like, raise some more mon­ey, find some more funds to kind of boost the conservatory.Because we have a real­ly impor­tant col­lec­tion of plants here, and a healthy and strong facil­i­ty will pro­vide a healthy and strong collection. 

Hold­en:, and then you had men­tioned col­labing, with the muse. , but Ial­so know that you guys do, like, trad­ing plants with oth­er loca­tions. So you want to talk a lit­tle more about that? 

Cole Geissler: Yeah. So con­ser­va­to­ries, a lot of times acquire plants through oth­er con­ser­va­to­ries, oth­er botan­i­cal gar­dens, as a way to, one, col­lab­o­rate and cre­ate good rela­tion­ships with oth­er hor­ti­cul­tur­al insti­tutes. but it’s also a real­ly impor­tant way to prac­tice con­ser­va­tion. So when a lot of peo­ple think con­ser­va­tion, they think pro­tect­ing plants out in the wild, reestab­lish­ing plants in the wild, plant­i­ng things out. But a lot of the times, the rea­son why plants might be endan­gered or extinct or threat­ened in the wild is because of a lot of envi­ron­men­tal impacts. And a lot of those han­im­pacts are still around. So it does­n’t quite make sense to put those plants back out there if they’re going to get dam­aged again. So con­ser­va­tion and action in kind. The Scope of what we do as con­ser­va­to­ries is we prop­a­gate, we repot, we divide, and we like to share oth­er mate­r­i­al with oth­er con­ser­va­to­ries and gar­dens and oth­er insti­tu­tions as a way to just kind of spread their wealth and spread these real­ly cool and fun,important plants. and then also make sure that there are back­ups. Basically.

Cole Geissler:, we have mul­ti­ple back­ups of the same acces­sions of the same species, in our own loca­tion. But it’s always good to have back­ups of backups.there are plen­ty of times where we give a plant to some­one and then we might have a par­tic­u­lar­ly rough grow­ing sea­son in our plant is just not hap­py or does die, but some­one else has that plant and it’s the orig­i­nal plant from what we had, so we can get that plant back. and it’s also a real­ly fun way to see how oth­er peo­ple are grow­ing things. Usu­al­ly when we trade mate­r­i­al, we vis­it or some­one vis­its us. We just kind of go around, talk about the plants that we have, talk about our expe­ri­ences grow­ing them. And it’s always good to share and trade infor­ma­tion. You’re always learn­ing some­thing new, espe­cial­ly if it’s a plant that you haven’t grown before. It’s always good to talk to who­ev­er has expe­ri­ence grow­ing it. That way you can learn how to bet­ter grow it. 

Hold­en:, and then I under­stand that you guys have some research plants here. The gin­ger col­lec­tion, right? 

Cole Geissler: Yes. so we have a col­lec­tion of plants, we call it the Crest­Col­lec­tion. it’s a, they were donat­ed by John Crest, Dr. John Crest at the Smith­son­ian Insti­tute, in Wash­ing­ton D.C. they are a col­lec­tion of wild col­lect­ed gin­ger rel­a­tives and their allies. so, we have a large, I think, oh, gosh, at least 200 dif­fer­ent acces­sions, of these rel­a­tives that we got from the Smithsonian. 

A lot of them are new to sci­ence, which means that they have nev­er been described before. So a lot of them are just list­ed as Zjim­ber Spa. so sp, which is like the abbre­vi­a­tion for species. We don’t know what it is yet. we don’t know if it’s some­thing that’s been found before or if it’s some­thing brand new. A lot of them are brand new. There are a cou­ple of them in the col­lec­tion that are named after John­Cress because he was the first one to find them. and so a lot of them are just real­ly cool, inter­est­ing plants. Some of them grow real­ly big, some of them grow real­ly small.They’ll have these like beau­ti­ful flow­ers. and that’s anoth­er exam­ple of con­ser­va­tion in action. A lot of these plants, like I men­tioned, like, they’re new to sci­ence, they’re wild col­lect­ed. and so a lot of these plants might have been endan­gered. Some of them are just like these. The only plants that are in cul­ti­va­tion are from this crest col­lec­tion. and it’s just a real­ly good way to kind of main­tain oth­er peo­ple’s col­lec­tions, do more research. So we have this col­lec­tion if some­one wants to do research and describe these species. and it’s just a real­ly good resource. It does take up a lot of space because gin­ger plants are real­ly big. Some Of them are small­er, but a lot of them are real­ly big. but we have a ded­i­cat­ed sec­tion to these plants. And, they do go through their sea­son­al changes too. Wehave, a decid­u­ous col­lec­tion and then an ever­green col­lec­tion. So the evergreens,they’re always grow­ing and the decid­u­ous ones kind of go dor­mant for the win­ter. And­so actu­al­ly right around now they’re start­ing to pop up. So you’ll see some new leaves and new growth and start to emerge, which is always good because it can be a bit tricky to grow them in the winter. 

Hold­en:, and then just wrap­ping things up, you talked about how some of them are new to sci­ence. And I just under­stand that you guys have a lot of plants here.about 2,600 species. 

Cole Geissler: Yeah. Around there? 

Hold­en: Yeah. Around 300, 250ish families. 

Cole Geissler: Mhm. 

Hold­en: I’m just won­der­ing how, with how much like new plants you prob­a­bly get often, if it ever is like a chal­lenge to fig­ure out how to take care of these in this space, it. 

Cole Geissler: Can def­i­nite­ly be a major chal­lenge. , we actu­al­ly had a tour yes­ter­day and some­one asked like why we don’t have like auto­mat­ic water­ing. And,it’s because we have such an incred­i­bly diverse col­lec­tion. that thing, every sin­gle plant kind of gets its own indi­vid­ual care. It takes a lot of study­ing of these plants, a lot of expe­ri­ence in work­ing in a green­house to kind of read the plants as I call it, see what they’re ask­ing for. Know that even if they’re not ask­ing for some­thing, that they need some­thing. so a lot of the time it comes down to, get­ting expe­ri­ence from oth­er hor­ti­cul­tur­ists. So, if we acquire a new plant, we always like to talk to who­ev­er is giv­ing us a plant because obvi­ous­ly they’ve had suc­cess in grow­ing it if they’re able to give it to some­one else. so we always talk to them, see how they grow it. but we also have to keep in mind that just because they grow it a cer­tain way in their con­di­tions does­n’t mean that exact way we’ll work in our conditions.every plant is unique. Every plant in every loca­tion and with every dif­fer­ent grow­er is unique. So we have to kind of, with new plants, we do research online, we talk to other 

grow­ers, we look at ref­er­ence text, we look at where the plant came from and what the cli­mate is like in those regions, and we try to kind of sim­u­late that envi­ron­ment in our own con­di­tions. And then we just see how the plant likes it. A lot of it is kind of a wait­ing game of we give it some­thing, we see how it reacts 

Cole Geissler: to that. If it likes that, great, we’ll con­tin­ue doing some­thing else. If it does­n’t real­ly do much, then maybe try some­thing else. And if it real­ly does­n’t like that,then we got to fig­ure out some­thing else. So it can be very tricky, but a lot of it comes down to, expe­ri­ence, many years of grow­ing plants, talk­ing to who’s been grow­ing them before, and just doing your research. 

Hold­en: Well, thank you so much for your time. Of course. So I’m HoldenDuckworth. 

Cole Geissler: I’m Cole Geissler. 

Hold­en: and this was the UConn Conservatory. 

Social Media